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In Praise Of Jane Austen
Spring 2000

Here is a link to the Table of Contents for this web site; the Index and Archive is a navigational guide. I have prepared an introduction and explanation for you at the Home Page, or you can link to these References, Links, and Annotations.

April

• 4/1/00 Dave Payton - George Eliot and Tomatoes
  • 4/1/00 Julie Grassi - If I'd have chucked it, I wouldn't have missed!
  • 4/2/00 Dave Payton - Eliot, Nietzsche, Smith and the Proms
    • 4/3/00 Julie Grassi - Greek, Schmeek!
    • 4/3/00 Dave Payton - I'll grant your point
      • 4/3/00 Julie Grassi - But did they need him?
  • 4/4/00 Cheryl - A busy weekend
    • 4/6/00 Julie Grassi - That azure hosiery, again
    • 4/6/00 Julie Grassi - Addendum: Progressive ladies' underwear
  • 4/7/00 Dave Payton - We've run far afield
    • 4/7/00 Julie Grassi - Oh, all right then
• 4/1/00 The Meister - Here is the surprise link for this month. Acknowledgement to an anonymous source (you don't have to look too far for his identity.)
  • 4/1/00 Julie Grassi - What a wonderful link!
• 4/4/00 Kathy - Austen's writing style
  • 4/4/00 Ashton - Reply
• 4/4/00 Carly DiPompeo - Help with Austen
  • 4/4/00 Ashton - Reply
• 4/4/00 Julie Grassi - Help, help, help ... for Kathy and Carly
• 4/6/00 John - Alba's Question
• 4/10/00 Ashton Dennis - First thoughts on my search for the influences
  • 4/12/00 Dave Payton - Influences and common sense
    • 4/13/00 Ashton - new thoughts on Elizabeth Bennet
  • 4/12/00 Cheryl - A grace period, please?
    • 4/12/00 Ashton - But, but ...
    • 4/13/00 Cheryl - Miss MW-D?? never!
• 4/13/00 Laurie - New thoughts on irony in P&P?
  • 4/13/00 Laurie - Addendum
• 4/17/00 Cheryl - Putting 2 & 2 together, so to speak
• 4/17/00 Ashton Dennis - "the charm of recent composition"
  • 4/18/00 Heather Swallow - Ramblers
    • 4/18/00 Ashton - tangles
    • 4/20/00 Cheryl - Now I understand you
      • 4/20/00 Ashton - I love you, man! Let's do it.
  • 4/19/00 Bruce - Ashton's prejudices
    • 4/19/00 Ashton - I get a lot of that "Puritan"-thing.
    • 4/20/00 Bruce - Hurried construction
• 4/19/00 Linda - Will you allow me, or do I ask too much ...
  • 4/19/00 Ashton - Welcome!
  • 4/21/00 Linda - Reply to your Welcome!
    • 4/21/00 Ashton - Response
• 4/20/00 Laurie - Questions on Mansfield Park
  • 4/20/00 Ashton - Ah-hh ha! THUD!
  • 4/21/00 Julie Grassi - Edmund and Fanny
  • 4/21/00 Cheryl - Ha-Has
  • 4/21/00 Ashton - Fanny, Edmund, and Mary
• 4/24/00 Linda - Teaching connubial felicity
  • 4/24/00 Ashton - sensuality? sensitivity? sensibility? sentimental? erotic? sexual? - What is the right word
  • 4/28/00 Linda - The "Right Word"?
• 4/26/00 Heather Swallow - WARNING: Very long posting with very little to interest except a Burney quotation
  • 4/27/00 Ashton - You may have better luck with Edgeworth
• 4/28/00 joyrider - Am I missing something?
  • 4/28/00 Ashton - yes
  • 4/30/00 John - Missing

May

• 5/1/00 The Meister - Today is the second annual Mary Wollstonecraft Day in our web-site community! This is the day you can post a political message or social commentary. Or perhaps you want to discuss a current event. If you have never heard of this celebration, here is a link to an explanation. And, here is the link to this year's offerings. Finally, there is this list of the individual postings:
  • 5/1/00 Heather Swallow - Not-so-common Decency
    • 5/4/00 Ashton - "You learn more from a loss than from a win." - Be explicit with youngsters.
  • 5/1/00 Ray Mitchell - Does Mary Wollstonecraft Day cause these disasters?
    • 5/2/00 Cheryl - Second guessing
    • 5/3/00 Ray Mitchell - oh !
    • 5/4/00 Ray Mitchell - Addendum: Well, how about this?
      • 5/4/00 Cheryl - A place in history, wow!
    • 5/6/00 Julie Grassi - For God's sake, Cheryl and Ray, let us let other pens dwell on guilt and misery, and quit such odious subjects as soon as we can ...
  • 5/1/00 Linda - The Hope of the World
  • 5/1/00 Cheryl - Some thoughts on Columbine, 1 year later.
  • 5/1/00 Laurie - Elian go home!
  • 5/1/00 HeatherBee - The Fear in Their Eyes
  • 5/1/92 Mary - The State of Degradation to which Woman is Reduced
  • 5/1/59 Sam - When to marry, if at all
  • 5/5/00 The Meister - Mouth Wide-Open
    • 5/6/00 Cheryl - Eyes Wide Shut
    • 5/7/00 Julie Grassi - Eyes open AND shut!
      • 5/10/00 Cheryl - Black soldiers and sailors
      • 5/11/00 Julie Grassi - I like the boy ...
      • 5/14/00 Dave Payton - Jennifer Ehle and "boy"
        • 5/15/00 Linda - Re: Tony award nominations, etc.
        • 5/15/00 Ashton - Ah-hh - my favorite subject
      • 5/10/00 Ashton - Some reflections on Cheryl's remarks
• 5/4/00 The Meister - Here is the surprise link for this month.
• 5/4/00 Myssa - my favorite Jane Austen
  • 5/4/00 Ashton Dennis - Hey! yourself
• 5/5/00 Laurie - new biography
  • 5/6/00 Ashton - The impressive credentials of Deirdre Le Faye
  • 5/7/00 Julie Grassi - le Faye and Chapman
    • 5/7/00 Laurie - Re: Chapman
• 5/6/00 Julie Grassi - Leaving aside the guilt, but staying with the misery for a while ...
  • 5/7/00 Julie Grassi - Addendum: George III and Napoleon
• 5/8/00 Ashton Dennis - Hm-mm - How Dr. J may have influenced Jane Austen: Rambler #4
  • 5/13/00 Ashton - Addendum: Johnson's Rasselas: "father"? No - maybe a "cousin"
  • 5/13/00 Julie Grassi - Rasselas
  • 5/14/00 Julie Grassi - Addendum: O.K., mate, let's step outside ...
    • 5/14/00 Ashton - I am out of my depth, so I choose discretion
• 5/10/00 The Meister - Two controversial images of Jane Austen
• 5/16/00 Dave Payton - This looks interesting
  • 5/16/00 Julie Grassi - Now I'm in dreadful trouble, and it's all Dave's fault ...
    • 5/16/00 Dave Payton - Keyboards and flannel shirts
  • 5/16/00 Bruce - Emma and lesbianism
    • 5/16/00 Laurie - Barbie dolls
    • 5/17/00 Linda - Close friends
  • 5/19/00 Dave Payton - The Two Emmas
  • 5/23/00 Ashton - Claire Tomalin on this subject
• 5/19/00 Ashton - "le grand dérangement"
  • 5/19/00 Linda - Cajun music and Louisiana
• 5/24/00 Linda - The passionate and sensual passages
  • 5/24/00 The Meister - Response
  • 5/25/00 The Meister - Addendum: Notes from Cheryl and Linda
• 5/24/00 Julie Grassi - The Romance of Literature
  • 5/24/00 Ashton - Yes, but ...
• 5/28/00 John - Blake's Religion
  • 5/29/00 Dave Payton - Blake. William, not Robert
  • 6/3/00 John - Re: Blake. William, not Robert
    • 6/5/00 Dave Payton - Re: "Re: Blake. William, not Robert"
• 5/29/00 Maria - Men of the Austen family
  • 5/29/00 Ashton - Welcome
• 5/29/00 John - On Ashton's 5/14: "I am out of my depth, ..."
• 5/29/00 David Payton - That darn Emma. Don'tja just love her?
  • 5/29/00 Ashton - It just so happens that I know the answer to your question.

June

• 6/1/00 The Meister - Here is the surprise link for this month
  • 6/2/00 John - June Surprise
• 6/1/00 Ashton Dennis et al - The passionate passages - an update
  • 6/1/00 John - Re: The Passionate Jane Austen
    • 6/1/00 Ashton - An Ideal Husband
  • 6/2/00 Bruce - The Island of Switzerland
    • 6/3/00 Ashton - No man is an island
    • 6/4/00 Julie Grassi - Right of ownership
    • 6/6/00 Bruce - More on sensuality
      • 6/6/00 John - Re: Bruce: More on sensuality
      • 6/6/00 Bruce - "sensual", "sensuous", and "sexy"
        • 6/7/00 John - Dictionaries
        • 6/7/00 Bruce - The Sensuous Island of Switzerland
• 6/3/00 John - Samuel Johnson's regrets
  • 6/7/00 Linda - Your invitation
  • 6/4/00 Julie Grassi - Mansfield Park
  • 6/5/00 John - Mansfield Park: Jane's ideal clergyman
    • 6/6/00 Bruce - The ideal Clergyman?
    • 6/6/00 Julie Grassi - Religious Ideals
    • 6/7/00 John - Re: Religious Ideals
      • 6/7/00 Bruce - Sin and forgiveness
      • 6/8/00 John - Sin and forgiveness
      • 6/8/00 Bruce - Three Quick Points
      • 6/9/00 John - An olive branch (of sorts) held out to Bruce
      • 6/8/00 Bruce - One more quick note on Maria's banishment
• 6/6/00 Michael Mogen - Darcy's panic
  • 6/6/00 Ashton Dennis - A welcome and a response
  • 6/6/00 Julie Grassi - Darcy as he is, and as others would like him to be ...
  • 6/7/00 Michael Mogen - Re: Darcy's panic
    • 6/8/00 Ashton Dennis - Your Darcy is obtuse
    • 6/9/00 Julie Grassi - EXCUSE me?
      • 6/9/00 Ashton - Dear Julie and Michael: are you consistent?
      • 6/10/00 Julie Grassi - Why judge at all?
      • 6/10/00 Michael Mogen - Upon what do we base our discussions?
      • 6/10/00 Ashton - The basis is the text, but the entire text
• 6/7/00 Julie Grassi - Sex and semantics Or: The Mysterious Case of the Wet Knickers ...
  • 6/8/00 Bruce - Erotic is fine
  • 6/8/00 John - Julie's Sex and Semantics
• 6/8/00 Cheryl - I came, I saw, I was entertained
  • 6/9/00 Julie Grassi - Of course she was entertained ...
  • 6/9/00 Cheryl - Gilbert & Sullivan, Julianne Moore, and Russel Crowe
    • 6/11/00 John - Gilbert and Sullivan
    • 6/12/00 John - Addendum: Angela Lansbury
• 6/10/00 Julie Grassi - Taking up an idea, and making everything bend to it, as Mrs Weston said ...
  • 6/10/00 John - Going for the gold ... and an
    Addendum: Going on the parish
    • 6/12/00 Julie - Dear, oh dear ...
    • 6/13/00 John - Re: Julie's Dear, oh Dear.
      • 6/14/00 Linda - "Where will it all end?"
  • 6/12/00 Dave Payton - The Darcy Panic
    • 6/13/00 John - Politely Distinquishing
      • 6/15/00 Dave Payton - Misanthrope
    • 6/13/00 Ashton - Response to Dave and John - some thoughts and some kudos
• 6/11/00 The Meister - Rewrites: I have rewritten my posting on Darcy's first proposal; here is the link to that. I also can admit to being the source of one other controversy: I am responsible for the first two paragraphs of the Passion Page. The last word in the second paragraph was "sensuality", but I have changed that to "sensibility". Are you amused? - I am.
  • 6/12/00 John - A troubling sentence
• 6/12/00 Dave Payton - Charlotte?
  • 6/14/00 Dave Payton - Addendum: Charlotte, Part 2
• 6/12/00 John - Samuel Johnson portrait
• 6/13/00 Nicole - Your web site
  • 6/13/00 The Meister - Welcome
• 6/14/00 Laurie - Juvenilia again
  • 6/16/00 Ashton - Congratulations
  • 6/19/00 Linda - Congratulations, Laurie
• 6/15/00 The Meister - The process begins: Julie P.'s review of Rozema's Mansfield Park
  • 6/17/00 Cheryl - First Impressions
  • 6/16/00 John - The process begins
  • 6/16/00 John - Addendum: Harry Potter fever grips children around world
    • 6/17/00 Laurie - Did someone say Harry Potter? - among other things
    • 6/23/00 John - Did someone say Harry Potter? - among other things
• 6/19/00 Cheryl - Darcy's journey
  • 6/19/00 Ashton - I couldn't disagree more
    • 6/20/00 Cheryl - Please remove your knee(jerk) from my eye
    • 6/20/00 Ashton - I am reminded of Knightley's reply to Emma
    • 6/24/00 John - Witty insults in a flirtation
  • 6/21/00 Bruce - Darcy: fool or prophet
    • 6/21/00 Bruce - Addendum: Rational opposition and flirtation
    • 6/23/00 John - Bruce's Joking Relationship
• 6/19/00 Ashton - On a recent debate between Bruce and John et al: A non-sectarian view
  • 6/20/00 Bruce - parental duty, brotherly love
• 6/20/00 Linda - The passionate passages: an update of the section on Persuasion (see chpts. 19-22)
  • 6/21/00 Heather Swallow - Passionate Persuasion
  • 6/22/00 Linda - You are very kind
• 6/21/00 Julie Grassi - Cheryl, and Christian duty
  • 6/21/00 Cheryl - a mind is a terrible thing to waste
  • 6/22/00 John - Judging Julie
  • 6/23/00 Julie Grassi - Oh, what can ail thee, Knight at arms, alone and palely loitering?
    • 6/22/00 Ashton - Response to John
    • 6/23/00 John - The mainstream
• 6/23/00 Bruce - The Past and the Present
• 6/25/00 Dave Payton - Mrs. Norris. Evil?
  • 6/26/00 Julie Grassi - The getting of evil
  • 6/27/00 Cheryl - Mrs. Norris and Mary Crawford
  • 6/27/00 Linda - Mrs. Norris
  • 6/26/00 Ashton - Some responses - Some thoughts
    • 6/27/00 Bruce - Mary Crawford vs. Mrs. Norris
    • 6/28/00 Julie Grassi - I'm probably being silly, but ...
    • 6/28/00 Dave Payton - Mary Crawford vs. Mrs. Norris
      • 6/29/00 Bruce - Mary C -- candidate for sainthood
      • 6/29/00 Ashton - Bruce, please give us you overview of the novel and its author
      • 6/30/00 Bruce - Mansfield Park -- the "new" Northanger Abbey
• 6/27/00 Bruce - Structuralist approach to Pride and Prejudice
  • 7/1/00 Dave Payton - The deconstructionalist Mary Crawford
• 6/28/00 Ashton Dennis - Lydia Bennet and Maria Bertram-Rushworth
  • 6/30/00 Cheryl - Exactly right.
  • 6/30/00 John - Lydia and Maria share some evil
  • 7/1/00 Bruce - Maria and Lydia
  • 7/2/00 Dave Payton - Lydia and Maria???
  • 7/3/00 Julie Grassi - Lydia and Maria
  • 7/3/00 Laurie - Lydia and Maria

This web site was introduced on December 16^th, 1997 because that was the 222^nd anniversary of Jane Austen's birth. This date was also the 227^th anniversary of the birth of Ludwig van Beethoven.