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In Praise Of Jane Austen
Winter 2000

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January

• 1/1/00 The Meister - The surprise link
• 1/1/00 Ashton Dennis - Jane Austen's Mansfield Park; Ashton's rants exceed his rents
  • 1/1/00 Julie Grassi - fraternal ties and Jane Austen
  • 1/3/00 Ashton - There's more than meets the eye here, Scully
    • 1/7/00 Julie Grassi - Who's Scully? OR: Ray's going to kill me for this!
    • 1/7/00 Ashton - Arithmetic
• 1/4/00 Anielka Rice - MP review
  • 1/5/00 Ashton - On mulattos and half-mulattos
  • 1/6/00 Julie Grassi - Various
    • 1/6/00 Ashton - Following the Equator
    • 1/7/00 Julie Grassi - Don't be silly
      • 1/7/00 Ashton - The mention of slavery in Mansfield Park
      • 1/8/00 Julie Grassi - This is getting interesting!
      • 1/8/00 Ashton - How slaveholders avoided the term "slave"
  • 1/8/00 Anielka - Slavery
    • 1/8/00 Ashton - Reply
    • 1/8/00 Julie Grassi - The one thing ...
    • 1/9/00 Anielka - Another delve into slavery, America, politics and ... Austen.
      • 1/10/00 Ashton - Reply
      • 1/11/00 Anielka - OK. I admit it
• 1/6/00 John - Julie Grassi - 8/7/99, Charlotte
• 1/6/00 Cheryl - a late response on the Fanny question
  • 1/11/00 Julie Grassi - I don't care for her much, either, but ...
  • 1/10/00 Laurie - Re: Late response on the Fanny question
  • 1/8/00 John - Cheryl's view on Fanny Price
    • 1/10/00 Julie Grassi - free will
      • 1/11/00 John - Julie Grassi on "free will"
      • 1/11/00 Julie Grassi - No, that was Cheryl ...
      • 1/12/00 Julie Grassi - Addendum: Marsupial interference
  • 1/6/00 Ashton - OK, here is a single example
  • 1/15/00 Cheryl - a long response
    • 1/17/00 Julie Grassi - Well, let's pick the nits
    • 1/17/00 John - Re: Cheryl's long response
• 1/11/00 anj - Jane Austen and Pride and Prejudice
• 1/11/00 Anielka - Mr. Elliot
  • 1/12/00 Julie Grassi - Mr. Elliot
  • 1/13/00 Ashton - A footnote on grounds for divorce in Jane Austen's time
    • 1/13/00 Julie Grassi - I'm afraid she was ...
    • 1/13/00 John - Grounds for divorce
      • 1/14/00 Julie Grassi - You betcha, sunshine!
    • 1/17/00 Ashton - Response to John and Julie
      • 1/18/00 John - In disagreement with Professor Todd?
      • 1/18/00 Julie Grassi The trouble with bloody mathematicians is ...
• 1/13/00 Dave Payton - Naval Matters
  • 1/14/00 Ashton - Naval brothers
  • 1/17/00 Dave Payton - O'Brien, O'Brian, Whatever
• 1/15/00 Cheryl - Humble thanks
• 1/18/00 Cheryl - tying up some loose ends
  • 1/28/00 John - Another loose end
• 1/18/00 The Meister - Elizabeth Jenkins's biography of Jane Austen
• 1/18/00 Bruce - To John, Julie, and All
  • 1/18/00 Julie Grassi - Sucked on? - and other responses
  • 1/19/00 Bruce - On Trevor-Roper
    • 1/20/00 Julie Grassi - Abuse (Abruce?) of my beloved
    • 1/20/00 Ashton - still more abruce of the beloved
      • 1/20/00 Julie Grassi - I do not either
      • 1/20/00 Bruce - String up Roper
      • 1/21/00 Julie Grassi - Baron Dacre of Glanton
• 1/21/00 Ashton - mares' nests
  • 1/22/00 Julie Grassi - paddock with a church in it
  • 1/24/00 Anielka - Whether or not MP is about slavery
    • 1/24/00 Ashton - "My courage always rises with every attempt to intimidate me."
    • 1/29/00 Anielka - MP answer
      • 1/29/00 Elizabeth Jenkins - My Dear Anielka,
• 1/24/00 Mrs. P - What joke?
  • 1/24/00 Ashton - explanation
  • 1/26/00 Mrs. P - hanging
    • 1/26/00 Ashton - implicit passion
• 1/27/00 Ashton - a chink in the Austen family armor
• 1/29/00 Heather Swallow - Miss you. . .Planning to correct my aim.
• 1/29/00 Mrs. P - Knightley
• 1/30/00 Julie Grassi - Heather and Mrs P.
  • 1/30/00 Mrs. P - Knightley II
  • 1/31/00 Julie Grassi - Kid?
    • 1/31/00 Mrs. P - slavery
    • 1/31/00 Julie Grassi - Sex and the single novelist
  • 1/31/00 Ashton - Sex! - I say, sex right here in our community
    • 2/1/00 Jonesy P - thanks
• 1/30/00 Anthony - What, Grandpa? What do you mean when you say, 'they didn't even make the playoffs this year' ?

  

  • 1/30/00 The Meister - Happy Super Bowl Sunday everyone! Enjoy the food and enjoy the game while I explain some things to my main man. (The poor little guy bet his shirt on the '9ers this year.)
    • 1/31/00 Empress Neen - Sir Anthony
    • 1/30/00 Ashton - Why I will root for the Rams
• 1/30/00 Ashton - The tender Austen heart amongst the stoic: Connecting the dots
  • 1/30/00 Julie Grassi - I don't see any dots......
    • 1/30/00 Anielka - the Dashwood sisters
  • 1/30/00 Ashton - Ummm, are you seeing spots?
    • 1/30/00 Julie Grassi - The most outrageous piece of Grandfather bragging I have ever.......
    • 1/30/00 Ashton - We are not that far apart
• 1/30/00 Anielka - New Theory
  • 1/31/00 Julie Grassi - Theories
  • 1/31/00 John - New theory
• 1/31/00 Dave Payton - Emma and such

February

• 2/1/00 The Meister - The surprise link. Dear Gang, this one is way different. - Acknowledgment to Dave Payton.
  • 2/1/00 Julie Grassi - Horsefeathers?
  • 2/2/00 John - Chook
    • 2/2/00 Julie Grassi - Chooks
  • 2/2/00 Cheryl - Inland Northwest Pest Control (the silence of the chooks)
• 2/2/00 Ashton - The songs of Jane Austen
• 2/2/00 John - David Payton: Baseball?
  • 2/5/00 Dave Payton - Baseball and JA
  • 2/5/00 Julie Grassi - Speechless
  • 2/5/00 Julie Grassi - Addendum: Fire
    • 2/6/00 John - Julie's Speechless
    • 2/6/00 Dave Payton - Baseball, yet again
• 2/5/00 Julie Grassi - Apologies to Anielka
• 2/6/00 Anielka - Theory...
  • 2/6/00 Julie Grassi - Those chooks!
• 2/7/00 John - What's Next for Harry Potter?
• 2/7/00 The Meister - Mary Shelley's Matilda (c.1819): How the other half lived.
  • 2/8/00 Anielka - Matilda, and help me plan my trip to England
    • 2/8/00 Ashton - Gulp! England and Jennifer Ehle?
  • 2/9/00 Heather Swallow - Matilda
    • 2/9/00 Ashton - Reply
    • 2/11/00 Heather Swallow - Godwins and Monsters
      • 2/11/00 Ashton - Gods and Scholars
      • 2/11/00 Heather Swallow - Ahhhh
      • 2/11/00 Julie Grassi - Lady Caroline LAMB!
        • 2/12/00 Anielka - Snap!
  • 2/10/00 cheryl - Matilda, from the admittedly clueless
• 2/9/00 Julie Grassi - Guess what I'm reading now ...
• 2/9/00 Jonesy P. - Jolly Roger
• 2/10/00 cheryl - Newsflash!
  • 2/11/00 cheryl - So Ms. Rozema ISN'T the anti-christ!
• 2/10/00 Kenzie - Hope
  • 2/10/00 The Meister - Malthus and Godwin
    • 2/10/00 Julie Grassi - Persuasion
• 2/11/00 Heather Swallow - Dave's surprise link, John's carriages
  • 2/14/00 Dave Payton - quills and how to write good
  • 2/15/00 Heather Swallow - An Elephant in the Cupboard
    • 2/17/00 Dave Payton - Tomatoes, caps and Lydia Bennet
• 2/12/00 Julie Grassi - And they reckon Tasmanians are inbred! - A context for Mansfield Park.
  • 2/13/00 Julie Grassi - Addendum: Heather a la naturelle
  • 2/15/00 Laurie - Re: inbred Tasmanians
• 2/12/00 John - Heather's "Voice of the Shuttle"
  • 2/14/00 Ashton - I am not convinced
    • 2/15/00 John - Ashton's, "I am not convinced"
  • 2/15/00 Heather Swallow - There's something wrong with my metabolism
  • 2/15/00 Ashton - I remain unconvinced
    • 2/16/00 John - Laurie, Cheryl, Julie, Bruce, Heather and the Meister
• 2/15/00 Bruce - Another male voice: Frank O'Connor on Jane Austen
  • 2/15/00 Ashton - Thank You
• 2/15/00 Heather Swallow - Tomayto, Tomahto
  • 2/16/00 Julie Grassi - Jane Austen's garden
  • 2/20/00 Anielka - Jane Austen's pizza toppings
  • 2/20/00 John - Re: Heather and the tomahto (tomat'l)
  • 2/16/00 Cheryl - Did someone say tomatoes?
  • 2/16/00 Ashton - The Tyger and the Pleasure Dome
    • 2/16/00 Heather Swallow - Half-Blaked
  • 2/21/00 Heather Swallow - Having a ball
• 2/15/00 Laurie - Emma Thompson's Sense and Sensibility, among others
  • 2/15/00 Ashton - Response
  • 2/16/00 Cheryl - Versions of Austen
    • 2/16/00 Laurie - movies, etc.
• 2/17/00 Cheryl - Rozema and women directors
• 2/17/00 Cheryl - Mary Shelley's monster
  • 2/18/00 Cheryl - Addendum: The second half of the novel
• 2/17/00 John - William Blake, Songs of Experience (1794)
  • 2/17/00 Ashton - I think Holy Thursday does not serve your purpose
  • 2/18/00 John - A Modest Proposal, by Jonathan Swift
• 2/19/00 Hollis - Emma Thompson...
  • 2/19/00 Ashton - Reply
  • 2/22/00 Hollis - Socrates and Jane
  • 2/24/00 Hollis - Addendum: The Nosebag
• 2/21/00 Laurie - TLC's Great Books on P&P
  • 2/24/00 Ashton - The heart of TLC
  • 2/25/00 Laurie - Re: Heart of Darkness and Georgiana
• 2/25/00 Heather Swallow - History Channels
  • 2/25/00 Heather Swallow - Second-run
• 2/26/00 Keith A. Forbes - Jane Austen Societies from around the world to meet in Bermuda in May
• 2/27/00 Ashton Dennis - Jane Austen's art: our Lady's "unprofessional existence"
  • 2/28/00 Julie Grassi - Amateurs and social commentary
  • 2/28/00 Ashton - Amateur commentary
    • 2/28/00 Julie Grassi - Keeping my breath to cool my porridge ...
    • 2/29/00 Dave Payton - Amatuerism & Social Commentary
• 2/28/00 Cheryl - I found Elizabeth Jenkins's bio of JA
  • 2/28/00 Ashton - Cool!
  • 2/29/00 Bruce - "Speaking of Jane Austen"
• 2/29/00 Dave Payton - The Janites
• 2/29/00 Hollis - Mansfield Park
• 2/29/00 The Meister - February 29, 2000! What a rare day this is!

March

• 3/1/00 The Meister - Biographies: In addition to my recent postings on Elizabeth Jenkins, I have had some thoughts on other biographers. There are those of the Austen-family members, Park Honan, Deirdre Le Faye, and Claire Tomalin.
• 3/1/00 Heather Swallow - An entry for Julie to skip - Rozema’s Mansfield Park
• 3/1/00 *Amber - help with Jane!
  • 3/1/00 The Meister - help with Jane?
  • 3/2/00 Julie Grassi - Amber's request
    • 3/2/00 *Amber - Jane
    • 3/2/00 Julie Grassi - Oh, for pity's sake
    • 3/4/00 Laurie - RE: help with Jane
• 3/1/00 The Meister - The surprise link. See, especially, this page at that site. Acknowledgment, once again, to Dave Payton.
• 3/4/00 The Meister - The silkie and the soprano
  • 3/5/00 Julie Grassi - That CD
• 3/6/00 Dave Payton - Kipling's The Janeites
• 3/6/00 Ashton Dennis - Jane Austen's art: "the most difficult to catch in the act of greatness"
• 3/8/00 brian - HELP W/ EMMA!!!!!!!!
  • 3/8/00 Julie Grassi - What she was, must be uncertain,
    but who she was might be found out ...
    • 3/11/00 Julie Grassi - Emma/Mrs Elton
    • 3/11/00 Ashton - And each woman ...
      • 3/12/00 Julie Grassi - Emma and Mrs Elton
      • 3/12/00 Ashton - I agree
      • 3/13/00 Julie Grassi - Jane Austen agreed with you ...
    • 3/15/00 Heather Swallow - Poor Brian
• 3/12/00 Dave Payton - Watch out for eggheads!
  • 3/13/00 Julie Grassi - Go, Dave!
  • 3/15/00 Heather Swallow - Mystified
    • 3/16/00 Julie Grassi - Books, films, etc
    • 3/16/00 Dave Payton - Eggheads redux
      • 3/17/00 Julie Grassi - Infernal maggots
      • 3/18/00 Heather Swallow - Maybe I'm right?
      • 3/19/00 Dave Payton - You may be right, but...
• 3/18/00 Heather Swallow - Jane Austen's Laptop
• 3/18/00 Ray Mitchell - With Jane Austen on a nude beach
  • 3/24/00 Ashton - I wonder, wonder, wonder, wonder WHO (hmph!)
    who wrote the book of lo-ove?
    • 3/27/00 Ray Mitchell - The sadder but wiser girl is the girl for me
  • 3/22/00 Cheryl - More thoughts on eroticism
    • 3/25/00 Ashton - The identity of Jane Austen's true "father"
    • 3/28/00 Cheryl - Parentage???
      • 3/28/00 Ashton - First of all, the confusion about Einstein
      • 3/30/00 Cheryl - "I am not convinced..."
      • 3/30/00 Ashton - Have you gone stark raving mad?
  • 3/18/00 Laurie - RE: nude beaches
  • 3/18/00 Julie Grassi - ... sex rearing its ugly head - it's about to rear them off the ground permanently (The Devil's Playground, a film about an Australian Catholic boys' school)
• 3/18/00 Ashton Dennis - Mary Shelley's The Last Man
• 3/21/00 Cheryl - Jenkins's biography of JA and eroticism
• 3/23/00 Cheryl Hoffman - Humbly submitted bad poetry
  • 3/23/00 Julie Grassi - A kindred soul
• 3/28/00 Ray Mitchell - Wanted: Younger Libertine
  • 3/28/00 The Meister - Why were none of us informed?
  • 3/28/00 Julie Grassi - Libertines
  • 3/30/00 Cheryl - random thoughts on Lady Catherine and nude beaches
• 3/29/00 Laurie - semantics
  • 3/29/00 Julie Grassi - North Hanger Abbey
    • 3/30/00 Cheryl - more "American" talk
• 3/30/00 alba hall - reply to chauvinist rudeness in S&S
  • 3/30/00 Ashton Dennis - Welcome
  • 3/31/00 Bruce - Stab at alba's question