Male Voices In Praise Of Jane Austen

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In Praise Of Jane Austen
Fall 1999

Here is a link to the Table of Contents for this web site; the Index and Archive is a navigational guide. Also, I have prepared an introduction and explanation for you at the Home Page. Or, you can link to these References, Links, and Annotations.

October

10/2/99 Heather Swallow - Book titles for movies, and a can o’worms about fiction and history, for Cheryl
- 10/5/99 Cheryl - Worms, worms, bloody worms!
  - 10/6/99 Heather Swallow - Acquitted
  - 10/7/99 Cheryl - re: acquitted
- 10/3/99 John - Heather's latest, on book titles
- 10/5/99 John - Addendum: MP Trailer
- 10/7/99 Ashton - Imitation is flattery, but what is Bowdlerism?
  - 10/7/99 Heather Swallow - Mr. Bowdler
  - 10/8/99 John - Bowdler
10/4/99 Ashton - Fanny Price and Sir Thomas Bertram
- 10/4/99 John - Ashton's Fanny Price
- 10/5/99 John - Addendum: Christian Alligators
10/8/99 John - Beautiful Music
- 10/10/99 John - Addendum: Sharing, Hee Hees, Successive Sundays
10/9/99 Anielka - Latest MAD theory
- 10/10/99 Ashton - My guess is ...
- 10/11/99 Anielka - Further clues required
10/9/99 John - Pride and Prejudice: The Theme
- 10/10/99 Anielka - Re your theory that Pride and Predjudice is not, in fact, about "Pride" and "Predjudice".
10/14/99 Ashton - Mansfield Park: "The rights of a lively mind"
10/14/99 John - Forgiveness Downunder
- 10/15/99 Julie Grassi - The Getting of Wisdom
- 10/16/99 John - Henry Crawford, the Blemished Victim
10/15/99 Ray Mitchell - Penance and Nudity
- 10/16/99 Julie Grassi - Hardy?
- 10/17/99 Anielka - Hardy - and Dickens
- 10/18/99 Ashton - Take two Austen novels and call me in the morning
10/17/99 Mary Silgals - "Isn't this just delightful?"
- 10/17/99 Ashton - Welcome
10/17/99 R.W. Fiicker - Hello
- 10/17/99 Ashton - Welcome
10/19/99 Thomas - Hello from Land of the Morning Calm
- 10/19/99 Ashton - Welcome
  - 10/20/99 Thomas - Austen Movies
  - 10/22/99 Ashton - Well, for one thing ...
- 10/20/99 Julie Grassi - Works and Wonkiness
  - 10/22/99 Thomas - Introduction
  - 10/23/99 Julie Grassi - Introductions
- 10/23/99 Anielka - Recommended viewing
10/21/99 The Meister - Lovers' Vows or The Love Child
- 10/22/99 Anielka - Did you say Mary Wollstonecraft?
- 10/22/99 Ashton - On breeding
- 10/23/99 Julie Grassi - Fanny Wollstonecraft
  - 10/23/99 Anielka - MP Theory
10/24/99 Laurie - Harry Potter
- 10/27/99 Ray Mitchell - A bunch of Muggles
- 10/28/99 Laurie - Re: A Bunch of Muggles
10/27/99 John - World Conkers Championship
10/28/99 cheryl - catching up some
- 10/29/99 Ashton - Good to have you back
10/28/99 John - Lost in Translation
10/28/99 John - The Prettiest, Silliest, Most Flirtatious
- 10/29/99 Ray Mitchell - Mitford quote
- 10/29/99 Julie Grassi - Miss Mitford
- 10/30/99 John - The Prettiest, Silliest, Most Affected, [and most delightful]
- 11/2/99 John - Addendum: Curious Coincidences
10/28/99 Laurie - Politics in the novels
- 11/3/99 Ray Mitchell - writing box and politics
- 11/3/99 John - Politics
- 11/4/99 John - Addendum: Some additional references
- 11/4/99 Ashton - use Common Sense
10/29/99 Heather Swallow - Potter and stuff
- 10/29/99 Ashton - "Hand, Hand, Fingers, Thumb!"
- 10/30/99 Ashton - Addendum: Jane Fairfax
- 10/29/99 John - Heather's special readings
  - 10/29/99 Heather Swallow - Prettiest, Silliest
- 11/1/99 Laurie - Re: Potter and stuff
10/29/99 The Meister Has anyone seen Julie?
- 10/29/99 Julie Grassi - Visions
10/31/99 Julie Grassi - Higher Thoughts
10/31/99 John - Cross Purposes 10/17/99
- 10/31/99 Julie Grassi - The Lovely Maria
- 11/1/99 Ashton - Don't forget the lovely Betsy White!

November

11/1/99 Cheryl - flogging a dead horse
11/1/99 John - For Ray: Jane Austen's Writing Box Now in England
11/5/99 Dave Payton - P&P pre-A&E
- 11/5/99 Ashton - Amen
- 11/11/99 John - Elizabeth Garvie and David Rintoul
  - 11/15/99 Dave Payton - 1979 P&P and other
11/8/99 Ashton Dennis - The play is the thing
11/12/99 Carine Tarazi - On exclamation points
- 11/12/99 Ashton Dennis - It's an odd thing
- 11/14/99 Ray - Not me!
11/13/99 John - Sense
11/15/99 Lynn Cherie - the long dash
- 11/16/99 Ashton - the short sprint
11/17/99 Ashton - Fanny, Edmund, and Mary
11/18/99 The Meister - I feel like Mary Shelley's Last Man after the pandemic, or after the asteroid or somethin'. You know, kind o' naked and alone - well, not naked - I will always have my baseball cap. Was it something I did? Jeeze, If it means that much to you, I'll turn the damned cap around. Tell me - it is like a dream now - were there two women in Australia?
- 11/18/99 Julie Grassi - Women
11/20/99 Anielka - The other woman
- 11/21/99 Julie Grassi - Substance and Shadow
- 11/23/99 John - Theft and Art in Olden Days (but not in three novels)
11/21/99 Julie Grassi - Mansfield Park
11/22/99 Dave Payton - 1995 P&P
- 11/22/99 Ashton - I know how to ease her over the edge
- 11/25/99 Dave Payton - Persuasion, actors,&c.
11/25/99 The Meister - We are coming up on two birthdays next month, Jane Austen's on the sixteenth and Julie Grassi's on the twenty-fifth. We need some way to mark the occasion. Perhaps you can post a list of your favorite postings for the year during that week (and a bit). Maybe you will judge only one noteworthy, but don't list more than ten. And, yes, you may include some of your own postings on that list.
- 11/26/99 Anielka Rice - Stop press! a third birthday.
11/28/99 Dave Payton - Letters and religion
- 11/28/99 Julie Grassi - Letters and religion
- 11/29/99 Ashton - Clergymen and Jane Austen
  - 11/30/99 Julie Grassi - What bloody sacrifice?
  - 11/30/99 Ashton - Reply
    - 11/30/99 Julie Grassi - You shouldn't pick on me: you know I'm only little

December

12/1/99 Ashton - "Children of the Same Family, the Same Blood"; The central theme of Mansfield Park
12/1/99 The Meister - A new recurring feature. I am going to post a surprise link at the beginning of every month. I won't tell you what it is about, so that it will be a surprise - a sort of gift. The one for Jane Austen's birth month is this link. Enjoy! After you have seen it, after you get the idea of what is wanted, you may wish to nominate your own favorite sites for coming months. You are most welcome to submit those nominations to me.
- 12/3/99 John - Surprise link
12/7/99 Cheryl - Those scheming Crawfords
12/7/99 Julie Grassi - Games
12/10/99 Ashton - Henry Crawford: "...a pity you did not always know yourself..."
12/10/99 John - Words of Art
- 12/11/99 Ashton - a wish and some references
12/14/99 Ashton - Cordelia and her King at Mansfield Park
12/16/99 Anielka - Suckling and bits & pieces
- 12/17/99 Dave Payton - Suckling Again
12/16/99 The Meister

But tell Jane Austen, that is if you dare, How much her novels are beloved down here. She wrote them for posterity, she said; 'Twas rash, but by posterity she's read. W.H. Auden	[Jane Austen's] art is so consummate that the secret is hidden; peer at them as hard as one may; shake them; take them apart; one cannot see how it is done. Thornton Wilder	I am a Jane Austenite, and therefore slightly imbecile about Jane Austen. ... Shut up in measureless content, I greet her by the name of most kind hostess, ... E.M. Forster	Happy Birthday, Jane! We love you. (Ignore that guy in the white suit.)
Jane lies in Winchester blessed be her shade! Praise the Lord for making her, and her for all she made! Rudyard Kipling	[Jane Austen] had a talent for describing the involvements and feelings and characters of ordinary life, which is to me the most wonderful I ever met with. ... What a pity such a gifted creature died so early! Sir Walter Scott	*Every time I read Pride and Prejudice* I want to dig her up and beat her over the skull with her own shin-bone.** Mark Twain

12/18/99 TwoByYale - I was curious about learning more about her...
- 12/18/99 The Meister - We all are curious
12/18/99 John - Re: Someone straighten me out....
- 12/18/99 Julie Grassi - Oh, for crying out loud!
- 12/19/99 John - Re: Opher Crine Owtlowt & Suckling
12/20/99 Dave Payton - an essay by Claudia Johnson on Rozema's Mansfield Park
- 12/20/99 Julie Grassi - Whose Mansfield Park?
12/20/99 Dave Payton - Millenium and hate
- 12/20/99 Julie Grassi - Bloody mathematicians
- 12/20/99 Ashton - All of which reminds me of Mansfield Park
12/22/99 The Meister - There is a bad moon arisin'! Today is the solstice and a full moon at the same time. This is bad news! I hope you will be alright, I hope we all will survive - but I am not so foolish as to imagine that possible. Remember the risk factors, you are most at risk if
- you are a virgin;
- you are a goatherd;
- you live on an island;
- you are known to have made flippant, irreverent remarks about the millenium.
Be afraid!
- 12/23/99 Julie Grassi - Rising Moons
12/24/99 Ashton - Jane Austen's Mansfield Park: links to other web sites
- 12/26/99 Julie Grassi - Well, I never! (Well, not often)...
- 12/26/99 Ashton - Main-Stream Jane Austen
12/25/99 The Meister - Happy Birthday Julie - We love you. Happy holidays everyone!
12/26/99 Ray Mitchell - more kissing
- 12/26/99 Julie Grassi - Picky, picky
- 12/27/99 Dave Payton - Mansfield Park and other disasterous adaptations
12/29/99 The Meister - Happy Birthday, dearest loveliest Anielka!
12/31/99 Dave Parker - The world as we know it
12/31/99 Ashton - My favorite postings of 1999